Sometime in 2023, I had sessions with P2J where we made “Ludo,” “Anita,” and some other records. Those were just fun times in London, where I would just go into the studio

and I’d be up all night with P2J. We’d make like five complete songs in one night. We were just on that high, and we were just creating. So, “Ludo” is one of the songs that

we birthed from those sessions. At the time, we didn’t have Shallipopi on it, I never even thought that Shallipopi was going to be on that record, but we knew it was a very

strong record. When we were putting the album together, it kept on making whatever list we were putting together. So, we knew it was going to be on it. Hoodini (record

producer) helps me with the creative process for my songs, and he was like the song gives him a vibe where we can have a rapper on. If you think of it in a Western world,

it’s a Kanye record. That’s how he described it to me, and when he gave that reference, I could see the vision. We thought about Shallipopi because his voice is just unique.

I reached out to him, and we just made it happen.